Woman-sues-after-drone-injury-at-vegas-caesars-palace
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This will be one to watch closely as it could set many precedence's for the rest of us. This one is going to mean $$$ for the victim, her family, and her attorney. I'm not saying she shouldn't be compensated but I suspect the sharks smell the blood (aka $$) in the water here with it being located at Vegas Ceasar's Palace. KaChing KaChing KaChing . . .
In one other article I was reading about it someone stated (not verified) that the single operator was simultaneously flying 3 sUAS.
"The couple is alleging they were negligent for failing to comply with federal rules and regulations, as well as safety standards.
Both the drone company and the drone operator declined to comment on the impending litigations. Court documents reveal both denied the allegations against them and said they complied with FAA regulations."
If you were complying with regulations, then how and why did the drone hit the woman? Of course I wasn't there but it sure sounds like operator error. Not enough CYA built into the flight plan.....
Exactly. I'm afraid this is the "atmosphere" we've created with a ridiculously low bar for entry. No skin in the game (comparably speaking) in terms of gear, training, certification, or qualifications. It's just too easy to go to Best Buy and "portray" a Commercial Professional operator.
Curious why she didn't sue the casino. that is who contracted the service and that is where the real money is. The operator and the company are small-time.
In another article that was also pending. I'd imagine they are suing everyone looking to get every penny they can.
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Might situations like this result in some sort of skill or operational competency testing requirements for Part 107 pilots, much like regular pilots are?
I really don't see this as some magical situation that's going set precedence. It sounds like a very standard injury case. People get hurt by other people's "stuff" all the time. Sometimes the stuff is at fault. Sometimes the idiot operating the stuff is at fault. Sometimes holes can be poked in the regulations that control the stuff. If you really want something to worry about you should keep your eye on the insurance rates to get drone operations insured. The regulations actually seem pretty good… you can't force people to follow them by creating more of them.
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Not a single bit. You could literally have your Part 107 and never even seen an sUAS let alone flown one. On another forum I read where a guy was getting his Part 107 and never flown one period. He just wanted to see if he could take and pass the test. It's all written testing and no practical flight at all. Makes NO sense does it?
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We all know the FAA and NTSB will be all over this. Based on the article I can't see where the pilot isn't at fault, if the drone fell, or the pilot lost control of it he was operating too close to people. Of course we don't have all the facts. The lawyers and the plaintive will make bank on this one. As stated, watch our insurance rates now.
This has't to be everyone of our biggest fears, to lose control and injure someone, not just because of the liability, but if I were that pilot I would feel horrible about injuring that lady.
This has't to be everyone of our biggest fears, to lose control and injure someone, not just because of the liability, but if I were that pilot I would feel horrible about injuring that lady.
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It doesn't make any sense. Here you first have to pass an exhaustive medical examination. Exactly the same as the pilots of manned aircraft. EKGs, blood and urine drug tests, and countless other things. If you don't pass, you can't even take the course.
The course is 7 days of morning and afternoon classes. When I did it, it was mandatory that they were all face-to-face, now a large part of the theoretical part can be done online. Then there's the practical part. Each chapter is examined in writing. Then practice is done and a practical exam is done as well.
There are different tests for fixed wing, helicopter and multi-rotors. In order to pass the practical multirotor test, you must do the following:
Vertical take-off followed by a 10-second stationary flight at pilot's eye level.
Fast and leveled S-flight translation forward with course changes.
Slow and leveled forward flight with changes of course.
Slow flight in level backward translation.
A translational flight at a height of 10 m on both sides
From 10 meters high, a 360-degree turn to the right down to a height of 5 meters
From 10 meters high a 360 degree left turn down to 5 meters high
Rectangular circuit forward landing in front of the pilot
One S on both sides with 4 turns at 10 m height.
When you have flown a lot with a drone it may seem like very simple maneuvers, but when you have not done it, to pass you have to know a minimum of handling that in the end what is required to pass.
When I examined myself, I was the only one of the whole class who had flown drones before. There were people who didn't even coordinate both hands....
By the time we finished the course, at least they'd had a minimum of practice. Sort of like when you get your driver's license. You can't drive well, but at least you have a minimum base. With drones, it should be the same. There is a test for each type of aircraft and then by weight. From 0 to 5kg, from 5 to 15kg, from 15 to 25 and more than 25kg to 150kg which is the maximum without having to register the drone. From over 25kg you have to get the advanced Drone Pilot License and they ask for the highest level of medical certification.
I am not going to tell you what they have been demanding of us since last December because it seems that we own a large airline because of the amount of paperwork they require of us, all based on civil aviation of manned aircraft or practically the same.
It doesn't have to be as much or as little as part 107..............
Missing the point. All the training in the world does not overcome bad judgment nor stupidity.It doesn't make any sense. Here you first have to pass an exhaustive medical examination. Exactly the same as the pilots of manned aircraft. EKGs, blood and urine drug tests, and countless other things. If you don't pass, you can't even take the course.
The course is 7 days of morning and afternoon classes. When I did it, it was mandatory that they were all face-to-face, now a large part of the theoretical part can be done online. Then there's the practical part. Each chapter is examined in writing. Then practice is done and a practical exam is done as well.
There are different tests for fixed wing, helicopter and multi-rotors. In order to pass the practical multirotor test, you must do the following:
Vertical take-off followed by a 10-second stationary flight at pilot's eye level.
Fast and leveled S-flight translation forward with course changes.
Slow and leveled forward flight with changes of course.
Slow flight in level backward translation.
A translational flight at a height of 10 m on both sides
From 10 meters high, a 360-degree turn to the right down to a height of 5 meters
From 10 meters high a 360 degree left turn down to 5 meters high
Rectangular circuit forward landing in front of the pilot
One S on both sides with 4 turns at 10 m height.
When you have flown a lot with a drone it may seem like very simple maneuvers, but when you have not done it, to pass you have to know a minimum of handling that in the end what is required to pass.
When I examined myself, I was the only one of the whole class who had flown drones before. There were people who didn't even coordinate both hands....
By the time we finished the course, at least they'd had a minimum of practice. Sort of like when you get your driver's license. You can't drive well, but at least you have a minimum base. With drones, it should be the same. There is a test for each type of aircraft and then by weight. From 0 to 5kg, from 5 to 15kg, from 15 to 25 and more than 25kg to 150kg which is the maximum without having to register the drone. From over 25kg you have to get the advanced Drone Pilot License and they ask for the highest level of medical certification.
I am not going to tell you what they have been demanding of us since last December because it seems that we own a large airline because of the amount of paperwork they require of us, all based on civil aviation of manned aircraft or practically the same.
It doesn't have to be as much or as little as part 107..............
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Not exactly LUIS MARTINEZ, with education is the most effective way to alleviate stupidity. If they explain to you what you can and can't do exhaustively and the consequences, the stupidity of 95% of people disappears. Only the very brainless ones are left, which I think is what you mean. But even these, if they know that the consequences are serious, think twice.
"If they explain to you what you can and can't do exhaustively and the consequences, the stupidity of 95% of people disappears. "
He he...In your world what color is the sky????
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I know, I know what you mean. I don't know if I'm going to translate it well, but you know the saying "the words in blood go in"? One way is teaching and the other, which is unfortunately the one that most people understand at first is through sanctions. If they were to publish more news of the sanctions that the reckless commit along with what they have done wrong, it would be very educational as well
I am directly involved in this incident. This was not pilot error or anything of the like. A colony of bats flew directly into the light show and caused one of the UAVs to fall out of the sky.
