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Does it have "normal" battery behavior any other time? That's an awfully drastic decrease for such a low output device as the TX.
Yes - the next day when it was warmer, the remote battery was back to normal--that is, it would outlast three or four of the drone batteries.
 
Yes - the next day when it was warmer, the remote battery was back to normal--that is, it would outlast three or four of the drone batteries.
Wow.... that is fast draining. I've seen iPads in cold weather drop quickly, but generally about twice normal rate.
Have you had the opportunity to recheck, was it possible it wasn't charged prior.
 
Have you noticed if the batteries wrapped in plastic housing stay warm longer than say the Inspire open frame batteries. Have you considered getting a few M2 Enterprise Batteries that have the built-in heating element.
I'm not sure I understand your point. My issue was with the battery in the remote control. I admit to being fairly new at this, but it doesn't look to me like that battery is easily replaceable.
 
Wow.... that is fast draining. I've seen iPads in cold weather drop quickly, but generally about twice normal rate.
Have you had the opportunity to recheck, was it possible it wasn't charged prior.
Well, its always possible that I screwed up somehow, but I'm quite certain that it was fully charged. But I do want to get a little more experience with it before complaining to DJI.
 
I'm not sure I understand your point. My issue was with the battery in the remote control. I admit to being fairly new at this, but it doesn't look to me like that battery is easily replaceable.
Correct, no battery removal. At times when I charge up my drone batteries, I am not always consistent in charging up the RC to full capacity.
Not suggesting anything, just curious if You’ve had the same results another time.
 
Correct, no battery removal. At times when I charge up my drone batteries, I am not always consistent in charging up the RC to full capacity.
Not suggesting anything, just curious if You’ve had the same results another time.
I'm pretty careful about charging the RC fully, though I've noticed that sometimes it won't charge to 100% - it stops at about 98%. That seemed ok to me, but I'm wondering now if there's some flaw in the battery.
 
I'm pretty careful about charging the RC fully, though I've noticed that sometimes it won't charge to 100% - it stops at about 98%. That seemed ok to me, but I'm wondering now if there's some flaw in the battery.
I'd say that's within the "normal" full charge range.
For reference, I'm not sure on exact temps (20-mid-30's)... but on cold days that I've flown the M2Pro, I can get 2 battery packs depleted prior to my hands reaching limits... and the RC is still showing 1-2 lights.
 
Most, if not all consumer drones, use LiPo batteries, which rely on a chemical process to create electricity to power the drone. The chemical process slows down in cold temperatures and slows significantly in very low temperatures. Check the manufacture’s specs for the safe temperature range.

Trying to take reduced battery performance into consideration when planning a flight is difficult or impossible since no one publishes performance vs. temperature charts. I’ve been meaning to google the subject to find generic charts for LiPo batteries, which would provide some insight into the problem, but I haven't found the time and every battery is going to have a unique performance vs. temperature curve since it will be a function of the physical configuration of the battery, shielding from cold wind/prop blast, etc.

Shy of being able to predict performance vs. temperature based on a drone manufacturer’s data/curve for the specific drone/battery system, the best we can do is keep an eye on the voltage during a flight knowing that cold temps will reduce battery performance, perhaps significantly. For example, know that you will not have as much time to land when the low voltage alarm is reached, etc.

If you must or want to fly in cold temps, keep your batteries in a warm place before the flight. I own a heated battery bag but haven't used it since I usually can keep my batteries in my warm car (see Turnigy Programmable Lipo Battery Warmer Bag (12v DC)). Also, consider insulating the battery during the flight with a DYI “battery jacket” of some sort. This can help to keep the battery warmer using the heat generated by the battery during discharge.

I fly fixed-wing and multi-rotor, battery-powered aircraft year-round in all but the coldest temps for SW PA and have had good success with DIY battery jackets made from various materials. For example, I have several small, fixed-wing, aircraft that I fly for fun that use 2S, 330 mAhr LiPos. I place these batteries in jackets I made from the tips of the index finger and thumbs I cut from cheap gloves I use to help keep my hands warmer when flying in cold temps. I cut the tips of the index fingers and thumbs off of both gloves so I can feel the sticks on the transmitter and have better dexterity for preparing the aircraft for flight. I put all four glove tips to use as battery jackets, which don’t add much bulk to the batteries so they still fit in the aircraft, and they help keep the heat generated during discharge inside the batteries. I got a bundle of six gloves or so from Home Depot for less than $10 as I recall. The gloves are made from a woven synthetic fabric so I melt/seal the cut fibers with a flame, which works well to keep the woven fabric from unraveling at the cuts.

I have also used DIY battery jackets made from sheets of craft foam and/or felt that fit around my Mavic Pro and Spark batteries to improve their performance in cold temps. These are easy to make with glued seams and can be held onto the aircraft with a rubber band or Velcro strap. Don’t cover the sensors or lights and don’t let the batteries get hotter than normal, which takes some judgment.

I'll post some photos when I have time. In the meantime, here's a YouTube Video of me flying a 1.1m Pitts S1-S on a cold day recently. The "sensor" in the aircraft is a Insta360 One X.


Happy flying!
 
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