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Outta Control

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As an instructor for Drone University USA we closely work with SRP (Strategic Response Partners) in So Cal.

From that relationship we are seeing a large opportunity for our student bodies to go into. Conceptually, the use of drones with RGB camera can record aerial data images as a base line, pre-disaster for any structure. If a disaster does strike the same mission can be launched to record the delta of the two recorded images. This is valuable to the insurance company.

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Great information.

I've been involved in a good bit of "Disaster Planning" here locally over the last couple of years. We've worked with Fire Dept to help get aerials of one whole city and plans to do another here this spring.
 
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This is interesting. Would you just approach your local Fire Dept. or mayor's office and say "hey, how's your disaster prep?"

Well, with a more professional tone than that, anyway.
This isn't really an area of "self dispatch" if you will. We are already embedded in the agency and have been for a few years now. I can tell you first hand that Public Safety is not a business model to start/build your UAS company on. It's really an add-on for other businesses because there isn't any money in this venture.

Don't take this wrong but Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness is sort of a "fickle" group. You've got to learn the lingo and "integrate" with the system. I could go into this for hours but the above should give you an idea.
 
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Good points Outta. I have been very active with civilian emergency response support in the Sierra Nevada area for quite some time and also find that not only does insurance companies find such data useful; so does the National Weather and Forestry service. Changes in water stream or river flows, downed trees, or excess erosion are just a few of the considerations that NWS weather, volunteer and agency spotters provide for being "eyes and ears" to these agencies. Drone emerging technologies facilitate enhancement to these activities while minimizing costs and risks.
 

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This isn't really an area of "self dispatch" if you will. We are already embedded in the agency and have been for a few years now. I can tell you first hand that Public Safety is not a business model to start/build your UAS company on. It's really an add-on for other businesses because there isn't any money in this venture.

Don't take this wrong but Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness is sort of a "fickle" group. You've got to learn the lingo and "integrate" with the system. I could go into this for hours but the above should give you an idea.
What you are saying is exactly what the organization I just joined said as well. When they started the organization about 6 years ago they showed up to help at a disaster and what they got from the law enforcement agencies and federal agencies was literally "who are you and what do you want??" and they had to prove that what they had to offer was valuable to the organizations running the operations there. They were sent away. So what they had to do was, like you said, integrate, learn the lingo, bring a resume of what they had to offer, etc... Once they were seen as a valuable organization their presence is almost expected.
 
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My thoughts, Some leaders in a disaster response team have a chip on their shoulder, so now you come along and show a better way assisting in a disaster, now he's not the focus of attention anymore. :rolleyes:
 

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My thoughts, Some leaders in a disaster response team have a chip on their shoulder, so now you come along and show a better way assisting in a disaster, now he's not the focus of attention anymore. :rolleyes:
With all due respect it's not about attention or a chip. When you're working with the Govt you have to make sure you have every I "dotted" and T "crossed". When you factor in liability and such it makes it even worse.

Keep in mind we have to worry about manned aircraft coordination, sUAS coordination, Boots-on-the-ground and so many other resources they just can't afford for any Tom-****-Harry to show up and take to the air.

This goes for sUAS, foot searchers, and medics as well. If you don't have the proper credentials it's not worth the risk. One mistake an we go from looking for one person to looking for multiple people in multiple areas and taking critical resources away from the proper person.

Trust me when I say I fully understand exactly where you're coming from. I felt/thought the same way when I first went to Emergency Services and offered my services to them. I was told "politely" that in order to work with them I would have to have some basic ICS training and then train with the dept in order to work in conjunction with them and not tie up resources. After jumping through the hoops it makes sense.. a LOT of sense now that I've been doing this for a few years.

Safe flights!
Allen
 
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With all due respect it's not about attention or a chip. When you're working with the Govt you have to make sure you have every I "dotted" and T "crossed". When you factor in liability and such it makes it even worse.

Keep in mind we have to worry about manned aircraft coordination, sUAS coordination, Boots-on-the-ground and so many other resources they just can't afford for any Tom-****-Harry to show up and take to the air.

This goes for sUAS, foot searchers, and medics as well. If you don't have the proper credentials it's not worth the risk. One mistake an we go from looking for one person to looking for multiple people in multiple areas and taking critical resources away from the proper person.

Trust me when I say I fully understand exactly where you're coming from. I felt/thought the same way when I first went to Emergency Services and offered my services to them. I was told "politely" that in order to work with them I would have to have some basic ICS training and then train with the dept in order to work in conjunction with them and not tie up resources. After jumping through the hoops it makes sense.. a LOT of sense now that I've been doing this for a few years.

Safe flights!
Allen
I'm only saying some, not directed to you an any way.
 
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I'm only saying some, not directed to you an any way.

If I worded my reply to sound like I was offended or felt like it was towards me that is My mistake and not what I intended. Mea Culpa my friend.

I was just trying to shed some light on the thought process and why some organizations are reluctant to allow anyone to join without the right credentials. Sometimes it helps to understand why the entity is denying a request for FREE help and support. One might think, "It's free and I could help GREATLY.... why would anyone turn down such an offer?". When working with Govt it's more about being "Covered" (aka CYA) than what's the right thing to do. We live in such a contentious society where people are always ready to sue (aka Compensation Society or a Litigious Society) that we have learned to err on the side of caution to an extreme degree. One mistake and you get severely reprimanded or even released of duty in order to protect the "Image" of the Govt Entity.

Granted I have no doubts there are some depts who think, "Those things are just toys and we need Big Manly Tools to do this type of work" but that thought process is getting smaller and smaller every day. In almost every single Emergency Services publication on the market today they are toting the AMAZING usefulness and cost savings the sUAS to the ES industry as a whole.
 
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