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I'm surprised more folks don't point out these shortcomings. When I saw the following video, the controller alone was enough to give me pause. I don't know what Parrot was thinking but it wasn't about serious users that's for sure. The camera is the high point but the controller may be a deal breaker. This users addition of an actual power button is helpful but it certainly should have one from the manufacturer. o_O

You were very thorough in your review.
 

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I'm surprised more folks don't point out these shortcomings. When I saw the following video, the controller alone was enough to give me pause. I don't know what Parrot was thinking but it wasn't about serious users that's for sure. The camera is the high point but the controller may be a deal breaker. This users addition of an actual power button is helpful but it certainly should have one from the manufacturer. o_O
Boy... his video sums it up very nicely... and still kept it!
I’m also surprised he’d take the time to make the 2 RC modifications. His button mod actually looks very nice, I was more interested in what button was used & how he mounted it... might use it elsewhere. :)

With all the other points of dissatisfaction, opening up the RC handset, soldering, drilling & mounting in a sm button is a very determined person to make it work! His comment on tablet mount I fully agree, a fixed tablet mount isn’t functional and I also looked at filing the edge to allow pivot, but was already beginning to see a “return to store” and pondered the tension of the plastic to control tilt... as his flops to max tilt.
Basically needed a new tension pivot ball mount... again not worth the time.

He praised the thermal more than my experience. In comparison, the M2ED holds more complete thermal color pallets, a higher caliber method to blend RGB & Thermal... MSX. Based on other’s videos, the 640 upscaler looks to improve when used with MSX... not to XT 640 caliber, but improved.

Overall, I agree with his review... which to me justified a return. His video is the best overall review I’ve seen... if interested, make your judgement decision via his review.
 
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Boy... his video sums it up very nicely... and still kept it!
I’m also surprised he’d take the time to make the 2 RC modifications. His button mod actually looks very nice, I was more interested in what button was used & how he mounted it... might use it elsewhere. :)

With all the other points of dissatisfaction, opening up the RC handset, soldering, drilling & mounting in a sm button is a very determined person to make it work! His comment on tablet mount I fully agree, a fixed tablet mount isn’t functional and I also looked at filing the edge to allow pivot, but was already beginning to see a “return to store” and pondered the tension of the plastic to control tilt... as his flops to max tilt.
Basically needed a new tension pivot ball mount... again not worth the time.

He praised the thermal more than my experience. In comparison, the M2ED holds more complete thermal color pallets, a higher caliber method to blend RGB & Thermal... MSX. Based on other’s videos, the 640 upscaler looks to improve when used with MSX... not to XT 640 caliber, but improved.

Overall, I agree with his review... which to me justified a return. His video is the best overall review I’ve seen... if interested, make your judgement decision via his review.
I know the feeling and one the side bar, you and I were thrilled to purchase one. I’ve been following your lead after, the EVO, Inspire 2 chats that we’ve had. I’m always humbled by your honest, bro.

My M2P Dual has arrived, and still playing with it. I find it a bit heavier than my M2P. Hope to get it flying next week and I can wait until you get yours, so we can share notes.
 

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I know the feeling and one the side bar, you and I were thrilled to purchase one. I’ve been following your lead after, the EVO, Inspire 2 chats that we’ve had. I’m always humbled by your honest, bro.

My M2P Dual has arrived, and still playing with it. I find it a bit heavier than my M2P. Hope to get it flying next week and I can wait until you get yours, so we can share notes.
How Sweet... you'll have to share your opinion of the upscaling in comparison to the anafi's image overlay. Looking forward to testing that comparison... I saved several Anafi-T images for comparison.

Heavier? Hmmm, interesting? DUAL would be a few grams at most. Wonder if the heated battery weighs much more than standard. Nothing else is different is there??? I'll have to look, is the Enterprise version heavier than M2P or M2Z... if so due to what?

With the 4th approaching, Totally unrelated, but pondered what fireworks looked like as Thermal against the cooler sky using different color pallets. Also pondered how a Flir sensor performed with fast heat movement... as exploding fireworks.

I'll most likely not have a M2ED in time... they haven't credited the Anafi-T yet... if you find an opportunity... :rolleyes: as a pre-declared Hobbyist NonPT107 classified evening ;).... grab a few pics & videos. The strobe and belly LED's meet night lighting requirements... or hand hold.

Might provide some cool artistic shots, even with a 160 sensor.
 

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I know the feeling and one the side bar, you and I were thrilled to purchase one. I’ve been following your lead after, the EVO, Inspire 2 chats that we’ve had. I’m always humbled by your honest, bro.

My M2P Dual has arrived, and still playing with it. I find it a bit heavier than my M2P. Hope to get it flying next week and I can wait until you get yours, so we can share notes.
Received the M2EDual July 3rd... and it has it's strengths but disappointments too. But I will be requesting an return.
The biggest & main bust for me was the lack of JPG-R images! The Anafi-T did produce JPG-R and full Dx of images with FLIR Tools. Actually the Anafi-T images gained several abilities within FLIR Tools. The 2nd strike against the M2ED, was not so impressive MSX overlay and no ability to adjust the degree of overlay; in comparison to the Anafi-T's RGB+Thermal adjustment slider.

Adv Radiometric: As to why, don't know... but I was under the impression both the Anafi-T & M2ED shared a full radiometric sensor, assumed they had the exact same Lepton sensor. Although the Anafi-T is adv radiometric, the M2ED is not based on the ability to provide JPG-R. Although, the M2ED does provide Isotherm, zone box and point temp while actively using the thermal but produces only small JPG images... separate from the RGB. The Anafi-T provides 1 JPG-R image containing both the RBG & Thermal images that the FLIR Tools can separate and manipulate.

I'm surprised DJI didn't provide Adv Radiometric on the M2ED when Parrot did to the Anafi-T. If I hadn't examined myself, I'd question the accuracy.

Without question, the M2ED is a more robust, performing platform. It's overall quality, included features & options are both visually and operationally better in many factors. The flight behavior of the M2E platform and the software are also a major step up in comparison. The radio transmission and the ease to connect & fly are supreme in comparison to the Anafi-T.

Although for the purpose the craft, a small thermal platform: the Adv Radiometric, the ability to adjust overlay of RGB / Thermal images, and the 180 vertical tilt gimbal are strengths held by the Anafi-T for $1000 less.

Food for thought if considering a small thermal.... I'm still chewing on it.
 
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M2ED is a nice first step thermal and I'm guessing most users will stop there. We get what we pay for. Serious infrared imaging requires a larger sensor; XT or XT2. Yes, much more expensive but...
 

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M2ED is a nice first step thermal and I'm guessing most users will stop there. We get what we pay for. Serious infrared imaging requires a larger sensor; XT or XT2. Yes, much more expensive but...
No doubt the XT & XT2 are supreme in many ways, including cost.

But on the 160 lepton sensor.... as a Thermal, the Anafi-T takes the Trophy in my opinion. It offers more XT / XT2 Adv Radiometric diagnostics than the M2ED does... and it's lower cost than the M2ED. On a thermal craft... within the 160 sensor.... the Anafi-T is more bang for the buck than the higher cost M2ED. On a Aircraft Platform... the M2E easily takes it!

If you can't take an image off the craft and examine it's thermal properties diagnostically, then it's just a thermal static image. Sadly that's what the M2ED offers... the Anafi-T offers Adv Radiometric in comparison.

I purchased the Anafi-T initially feeling if it lacks, can always step up to the M2ED.... to my surprise, regarding Thermal.... that wasn't correct.
 

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No doubt the XT & XT2 are supreme in many ways, including cost.

But on the 160 lepton sensor.... as a Thermal, the Anafi-T takes the Trophy in my opinion. It offers more XT / XT2 Adv Radiometric diagnostics than the M2ED does... and it's lower cost than the M2ED. On a thermal craft... within the 160 sensor.... the Anafi-T is more bang for the buck than the higher cost M2ED. On a Aircraft Platform... the M2E easily takes it!

If you can't take an image off the craft and examine it's thermal properties diagnostically, then it's just a thermal static image. Sadly that's what the M2ED offers... the Anafi-T offers Adv Radiometric in comparison.

I purchased the Anafi-T initially feeling if it lacks, can always step up to the M2ED.... to my surprise, regarding Thermal.... that wasn't correct.
As long as the user is happy with the job, that's what matters.
 

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As long as the user is happy with the job, that's what matters.
Couldn't agree more, that's the preferred outcome... a Happy Client.
Although, clients request's are often based more as questions, not knowledge of capabilities.

If it's a "live" active situation, the 2 little 160's will be about equal in Thermal capture... and no match for 640-R sensors. If it's an inspection to collect data and provide reports later... such as a home, roof, electrical, etc... the ability to examine POST JPG-R files is a benefit and can provide more information in the report, additional new views of isotherm or temps zones or change color pallets... all post work. Again, the 160 isn't ideal compared to the superior 640-R sensors, but it is useable if closer range. Many hand held are 80 sensors due to distance.

The JPG-R files can add worth to the little 160 if it's available.
LOL... when my activity increases (and Wife) where I can justify a 640-R, I'll be looking!
 
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Boy... his video sums it up very nicely... and still kept it!
I’m also surprised he’d take the time to make the 2 RC modifications. His button mod actually looks very nice, I was more interested in what button was used & how he mounted it... might use it elsewhere. :)

With all the other points of dissatisfaction, opening up the RC handset, soldering, drilling & mounting in a sm button is a very determined person to make it work! His comment on tablet mount I fully agree, a fixed tablet mount isn’t functional and I also looked at filing the edge to allow pivot, but was already beginning to see a “return to store” and pondered the tension of the plastic to control tilt... as his flops to max tilt.
Basically needed a new tension pivot ball mount... again not worth the time.

He praised the thermal more than my experience. In comparison, the M2ED holds more complete thermal color pallets, a higher caliber method to blend RGB & Thermal... MSX. Based on other’s videos, the 640 upscaler looks to improve when used with MSX... not to XT 640 caliber, but improved.

Overall, I agree with his review... which to me justified a return. His video is the best overall review I’ve seen... if interested, make your judgement decision via his review.
Well, coming full circle, returned both Anafi-T & M2ED... received the little Anafi-T (again), after comparing the two small 160 sensor platforms. The best of both worlds would be ideal... but not possible, so it's the Anafi-T for JPG-R, 180 Gimbal and Zoom.

I'll be applying the same mods to the RC as the YouTube to help with a few minor issues. Order a nice fitting neon orange wrap from a source in Germany. PARROT ANAFI - SKIN - 34 FARBEN / COLOURS - 3-5x Akku/Sticker/Folie/Wrap/Drohne | eBay
 

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